. >> there are lots of folks who don't think it's about civil rights but special rights. everybody has right to marry. the question is do you have special right to marry somebody in this country, we say marriage is between man and woman, no, me as woman don't have right to go out marry two men or one woman. i can marry another man. my rights are not insinged, yours are not infringed gay person is not infringed they just can't marry somebody of the same sex. >> do you see it pat passing in maryland, maine or washington? >> these are not consevertive states. maryland is not a conservative state but i will tell you one of the things we've seen we've been around the country in places like maryland predominantly -- marriage is an issue that really crosses religious groups, it crosses ethnic groups, it's really a uniter rather than divider issue. you go to the marriage rallies sometimes half the audience is black, half white. it's an issue that a lot of different folks come together. >> quickly on this. >> this issue will be seen when it's ever decided as a constitutional right